This is a pleasant game :) Perhaps becoming hard too fast, but it's still a pleasant game !
The only thing that goes a little down for me (that brings moment of focusing 'out of the game') is the too big crank's rotation needed to rotate the turntables. 180° of crank = 90° in game. This is disturbing for me.
Thanks! Yeah, I have difficulty with balancing difficulty so things are reasonable to people who haven't spent weeks staring at the game.
As far the controls - if you tap Left on the dPad on the title screen until the symbol in the bottom-left of the screen is an "A", it should switch things so that crank and turntable rotation matches. I personally find that a little too twitchy, but the option is there (and I really need to tweak the UI to make that more obvious!)
I love the music in this game, it builds on a sense of catastrophe that you’re careening towards, it’s great! The turntable mechanic with the carts is a fun one.
If you decide to revisit this one I’d appreciate some tweaking of the menu controls, it’d be nice to go back to the main menu on the pause menu after pressing the playdate’s home button. At the end of a failed run the glyph shows the right dpad as pressable but that’s only valid at the end of a successful run, a variant that reflects the available options would be nice. I know the menu controls use the dpad at the end of a run but it’d be nice to register A as next and B as to menu because I found myself pressing them out of habit from other games. The level select on the main menu doesn’t accept dpad up or down, nor A to select. It also seemed that, upon exit of a level that the cursor would be on the middle of the shown levels, not on the one I just exited as I would’ve expected it to be. Also, what’s the S, A, A1/2 that you can toggle with left dpad?
Those are all minor UX tweaks to a solid game though, thanks for putting this fun piece out there!
I hadn't realised the stage select wasn't going back to the last stage you played when you exit the game, honestly (this is definitely working on something else I've been working on recently...). Not allowing you to Next Stage from something you've already cleared is also a good point. I'll take a look at it when I get a few minutes spare. I should probably update this to put in an icon for the new list view anyway.
The S, A, A1/2 was something I patched in after the fact to address some other comments so didn't really put much of a nice UI on it. It changes the crank behaviour in game - A setting means that 1 rotation of the crank rotates the turntable all the way around, whereas A 1/2 means one crank rotation moves the turnable half the way around. S is the standard setting I playtested the game around.
One of my favorite playdate games so far! Great use of the crank and fun puzzles. My only frustration was that the rotation of the tracks was not perfectly synced to the rotation of the crank, so it was challenging to play the game by feel. Didn't stop my from 100%ing it though :) Hope you update it with more puzzles later!
Oh, wow, I'm impressed you managed to clear it - I had to do it for testing, and at a certain point I was wondering if some of the stages were a little too mean.
I did patch it some alternate control feels in an update (see other comments here) - obviously not much use if you've finished already, mind you, and not sure if either of them would particularly feel better for everyone.
Oh nice! Thanks for pointing that out. I should have read those comments haha. Not sure how I missed the updated game file I’ll play through some levels again with the different controls.
This game is great! My new pick up and play game :)
One request, could there be an option to use absolute position of the crank for rotating? I find the current system a little hard to line up the turntables and it’s the biggest source of frustration.
That's an interesting thought. I'd originally rigged it up as being relative for a couple of reasons - firstly, it meant that the player wouldn't have to worry about repositioning the crank between stages and messing up the initial turntable points, and secondly (and probably more importantly in my initial thinking), one of the thoughts I had early on was around having some stages where the turntables would rotate at differing speeds (basically turning at either double or half the speed of the standard ones). That said, I figured that the game was mean enough already without that, so I didn't actually do that in the end.
I've updated the uploaded build to have a three-way Crank Mode toggle on the title screen - just tap left to toggle between the three modes. The three settings there are Standard (the current relative system), Absolute, and Half Absolute. It does... interesting things to the difficultly. I suspect Half Absolute, where a full rotation of the crank rotates the turntables half-way, might be the mode to go for given the range of rotation you need to worry about - standard Absolute is way, way too twitchy. I suspect this'll probably make certain stages way easier, but given how nasty a few of the stages are, that's probably fine.
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This is a pleasant game :)
Perhaps becoming hard too fast, but it's still a pleasant game !
The only thing that goes a little down for me (that brings moment of focusing 'out of the game') is the too big crank's rotation needed to rotate the turntables.
180° of crank = 90° in game. This is disturbing for me.
But once again : it's a pleasant game !
Hiya,
Thanks! Yeah, I have difficulty with balancing difficulty so things are reasonable to people who haven't spent weeks staring at the game.
As far the controls - if you tap Left on the dPad on the title screen until the symbol in the bottom-left of the screen is an "A", it should switch things so that crank and turntable rotation matches. I personally find that a little too twitchy, but the option is there (and I really need to tweak the UI to make that more obvious!)
Ooookkk ! Will try it :) Thank
[EDIT] Just tryed, it's much more pleasant for me
I love the music in this game, it builds on a sense of catastrophe that you’re careening towards, it’s great! The turntable mechanic with the carts is a fun one.
If you decide to revisit this one I’d appreciate some tweaking of the menu controls, it’d be nice to go back to the main menu on the pause menu after pressing the playdate’s home button. At the end of a failed run the glyph shows the right dpad as pressable but that’s only valid at the end of a successful run, a variant that reflects the available options would be nice. I know the menu controls use the dpad at the end of a run but it’d be nice to register A as next and B as to menu because I found myself pressing them out of habit from other games. The level select on the main menu doesn’t accept dpad up or down, nor A to select. It also seemed that, upon exit of a level that the cursor would be on the middle of the shown levels, not on the one I just exited as I would’ve expected it to be. Also, what’s the S, A, A1/2 that you can toggle with left dpad?
Those are all minor UX tweaks to a solid game though, thanks for putting this fun piece out there!
Thanks for the feedback.
I hadn't realised the stage select wasn't going back to the last stage you played when you exit the game, honestly (this is definitely working on something else I've been working on recently...). Not allowing you to Next Stage from something you've already cleared is also a good point. I'll take a look at it when I get a few minutes spare. I should probably update this to put in an icon for the new list view anyway.
The S, A, A1/2 was something I patched in after the fact to address some other comments so didn't really put much of a nice UI on it. It changes the crank behaviour in game - A setting means that 1 rotation of the crank rotates the turntable all the way around, whereas A 1/2 means one crank rotation moves the turnable half the way around. S is the standard setting I playtested the game around.
Such an amazing game! Thanks for making this :)
Thanks, appreciate it
One of my top 3 at the moment... amazing game, happy to support and your future endeavors!!!
Thanks!
One of my favorite playdate games so far! Great use of the crank and fun puzzles. My only frustration was that the rotation of the tracks was not perfectly synced to the rotation of the crank, so it was challenging to play the game by feel. Didn't stop my from 100%ing it though :) Hope you update it with more puzzles later!
Oh, wow, I'm impressed you managed to clear it - I had to do it for testing, and at a certain point I was wondering if some of the stages were a little too mean.
I did patch it some alternate control feels in an update (see other comments here) - obviously not much use if you've finished already, mind you, and not sure if either of them would particularly feel better for everyone.
Oh nice! Thanks for pointing that out. I should have read those comments haha. Not sure how I missed the updated game file I’ll play through some levels again with the different controls.
This game is great! My new pick up and play game :) One request, could there be an option to use absolute position of the crank for rotating? I find the current system a little hard to line up the turntables and it’s the biggest source of frustration.
Hiya,
That's an interesting thought. I'd originally rigged it up as being relative for a couple of reasons - firstly, it meant that the player wouldn't have to worry about repositioning the crank between stages and messing up the initial turntable points, and secondly (and probably more importantly in my initial thinking), one of the thoughts I had early on was around having some stages where the turntables would rotate at differing speeds (basically turning at either double or half the speed of the standard ones). That said, I figured that the game was mean enough already without that, so I didn't actually do that in the end.
I've updated the uploaded build to have a three-way Crank Mode toggle on the title screen - just tap left to toggle between the three modes. The three settings there are Standard (the current relative system), Absolute, and Half Absolute. It does... interesting things to the difficultly. I suspect Half Absolute, where a full rotation of the crank rotates the turntables half-way, might be the mode to go for given the range of rotation you need to worry about - standard Absolute is way, way too twitchy. I suspect this'll probably make certain stages way easier, but given how nasty a few of the stages are, that's probably fine.
Thanks for the update ( and the insight to the design ). This feels much better to me :)
Just downloaded and sideloaded.......
Give me a couple of days with it and I'll give you my thoughts.
But the screenshots and your info make it look very good .....
Very good puzzle game. Gets tough after first few level's..... Well done....... Stuff like this is what the playdate was made for !!!!!!
Thanks!